I still don't get it! Here is a picture of page 237 of The Handweaver's Pattern Directory by Anne Dixon. It's a weft-faced pattern and as you can see it uses 4 shafts and 3 treadles with a straight draw but when I weave or draft it, it doesn't even appear to be very weft-faced let alone the pattern pictured.
Maybe someone can tell me where I'm going wrong?
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Lottie,
ReplyDeleteI wish I could help but I have never done this structure although the pattern appeals to me quite a lot!
I have woven a weft faced rug before and the only thing I can say about that is that the warp was VERY widely sett about 6 epi. The weft is packed in tightly on that loosely sett warp.
Love your shelving as well!
Alice
I wish I could help from your description, but I can't.
ReplyDeleteWhat about if you post pictures of your tie-up, your threading, and the fabric that you're getting? (I kind of think that in the process of writing about that, you'll see whatever is going wrong.)
I love the pattern you've chosen!! I've seen that woven a number of times and I always like it, but I've never seen the draft before.
I was just threading my loom for bookmarks this morning. I sleyed the reed at 25 instead of 15 and wondered why they were so-o-o-o skinny. Fortunately, on a skinny warp it's not so hard to make changes!!
Good luck!
Sue
It's a lovely pattern! I'd say that you need a wider set, or much, much, much smaller warp yarns. I don't have that book but I'm now wishing I did!
ReplyDeleteI think this might be a traditional Scandinavian pattern called "Krokbragd". It is beautiful, but takes time to weave, and you get a thick rug/blanket-like fabric. In krokbragd, you have very few warp threads per cm, as Leigh recommends and a woolen weft. The warp should be totally invisible. if you look at page 7 of this brochure http://www.seljord-vev.no/seljord/katalog/LaSkyttelenGa_Nr4.pdf, you find a pattern similar to the one I think you might try to weave. They use reed 30/10 1-1 and wool yarn 6/2 as weft. Good luck!
ReplyDeleteI've woven weft faced patterns in rug wool (chunky!) on linen sett at 4 or 5 epi.
ReplyDeleteI just checked, and the weft (rug) yarn wraps approx 12 times around one inch on the ruler, and the linen warp wraps at 13, so not much difference in yarn size, the weft a bit bigger, but I have 26 picks of weft per inch in a plain weave section of the rug I wove.
The linen warp spacing looks very wide, and the weft packs in so that the warp is totally hidden.
If you use normal weaving software I don't think it would show the pattern unless there is a weft-faced option, likewise it wouldn't look like that on graph paper unless you ignore alternate coloumns of squares that you'd normally colour in.
I hope this helps?
Thank you all so much for all your help - I understand now. It's such a lovely pattern but I think it's going to have to wait for a while until I feel ready to tackle it! Back to playing with my bookmarks!
ReplyDeleteIt's really amazing how many facets there are to weaving, new ones seem to present themselves every day.
I really appreciate your help, as always.
Hello. I have been learning to weave in Osaka, Japan. Actually, I have the same book. I love this textile too. I would like to weave it some day soon. So I am looking forward to see your handiwork. :-) If you have the time, could you visit my blog? I tried to write a few blog in English.
ReplyDeleteThis is the traditional Krokbragd. But it's normally done on 3 shafts. If you look at the tieup it shows the 4th shaft being used. BUt if you eliminated the 4th shaft, you'd have a 1-3 2-3 1-2 treadling. The threading is 3-2-1-2 repeated. It takes 3 picks for one line to show up. The floats get packed into the previous line. I'm doing it right now and perhaps you might be starting from the wrong side. Not sure, but try starting from the opposite side. I've heard that the pattern will show on the bottom if you throw first from the right. I start on the left and it's showing up fine.
ReplyDeleteJust try it! It's easy!
ReplyDeleteDebbie Greenlaw's book "How to Design and Weave Krokbragd" gives good directions. Be forwarned, though; Krokbragd is addicting!
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